A big thank you goes out to The Weather Channels' Lawrence Pede, Sr. Manager, Corporate Development, for meeting with us and sharing his perspective on their Second Life presence and initiative.
We met at the welcome center, flew over to the beach to see the surfing area, then up the mountain to see the extreme skiing area. Although the trip up the mountain was a bit dicey, we all eventually managed to re-group there for the balance of our discussion. Below is the transcript of the entire meeting - there was lots of Q&A along the way.
Welcome & Weather Channel Introduction
[12:06] You: Everyone, this is Weather Merlin, aka Lawrence Pede of the Weather Channel Companies. Thank you so much for hosting us today!
[12:06] Weather Merlin: My pleasure. thanks for coming!
[12:07] You: Is it okay with everyone if I record the chat and post? any objections or want to be edited out?
[12:07] You: If so, just IM me and I'll honor your wishes.
[12:07] Weather Merlin: Great
[12:08] You: Weather Merlin is going to tell us a bit about the island and then show us some of the activities here. It is great fun if you haven't been here before.
[12:08] You: He will take questions, which we can do along the way so feel free - we'll try not to talk over each other, Weather.
[12:09] Andy Evans: I went skiiing once in RL and went off a cliff... should be safer here!
[12:09] Maryrose Mariani: lol it's not
[12:09] Pagan Bishop: afraid not ;P
[12:09] Andy Evans: hahaha
[12:09] Weather Merlin: :)
Why is TWC in Second Life
[12:09] You: So, please tells us why you came into SL and what is happening for TWC in SL, Weather!
[12:09] Pebbles Hannya: I'm curious about the weather in SL generally. Do you know much about that Weather -- is it different here than everywhere else in SL?
[12:09] Weather Merlin: Sure. Happy to.
[12:10] Weather Merlin: We launched Weather Island primarily to promote a new show we launched in March called Epic Conditions
[12:11] Weather Merlin: Our objectives were to pick a topic that we felt was right for the strengths that the SL platform provides and to develop something that residents would enjoy
[12:11] Weather Merlin: An unofficial tag for Weather Island is Stay. Play. Watch
[12:12] Weather Merlin: because the island is focused on 3 game like activities, skiing, surfing, and mountain biking and we have video scattered throughout the spacew
[12:12] Ana Herzog: /has it been a successful? how do you measure that succes?
[12:13] Xzavia Yifu: did you time this to coincide with sl's new 'weather' capabilities?
[12:13] Chime Bellman: Weather, are you with TWC or with the agency that built this?
Thoughts on Success & Agency, Infinite Vision Media
[12:13] Weather Merlin: It has been successful. We believe success for this project is best defined by the initial promotional support we received, about reenforcing our brand message (Bringing Weather to Life) and about connecting with consumers in a truly interactive way
[12:14] Weather Merlin: And we believe we have done all that
[12:14] Ana Herzog: :-)
[12:14] Weather Merlin: We have been in the top 5 of the New World Notes ranking of real lworld brands in SL since we launched with the exception of last week when we were #6
[12:15] Weather Merlin: And people continue to come to the island...without any promotion up until this point!
[12:15] You: Weather was the concept developed internally?
[12:15] Outbreak Fastback: may i ask how you gathered such information?
[12:15] Weather Merlin: I saw a questioon before about whether I am from TWC...and yes I am.
[12:15] Chime Bellman: `Thanks.
[12:15] Chime Bellman: Who was your agency for this?
[12:16] Weather Merlin: I work in the Corporate Strategy group
[12:16] Weather Merlin: Our agency was Infinite Vision Media
[12:16] Pagan Bishop: where do you find the New World Notes brand rankings?
[12:16] Weather Merlin: Linda, please tell me your last question again.
[12:16] Xzavia Yifu: was the timing for this planned to coincide with sl's new weather capabilites or was that just serendipitous?
[12:16] Weather Merlin: Sorry trying to catch up!
[12:16] You: Was the concept for the build developed internally?
[12:16] Ana Herzog: You "got" SL. How did a corp group manage that?
[12:17] Weather Merlin: Yes. We developed the concept internally. Strategy together with our Consumer Marketing group
[12:18] You: New World Notes does a ranking every money.
[12:18] You: Monday - ha what a slip.
[12:18] Ana Herzog: LOL!
[12:18] Outbreak Fastback: and this ranking could be found where?
[12:18] Codeme Sands: Could you perhaps briefly explain what the weather channel in RL is? (For us Europeans)
[12:19] Weather Merlin: Yes, it is the only source of such a comparison so until someone like Nielsen gets into the SL measurement game, there;'s not a lot to go on!
[12:19] Weather Merlin: Sure happy to.
[12:20] Weather Merlin: The Weather Channel is an independent media company with a cable television network distributed in 90 million homes, weather.com with over 30 millino unique visitors per month, mobile products, etc.
[12:20] Codeme Sands: thats pretty sharp for the typing limits:) thanks
[12:20] Xzavia Yifu: was the timing for this planned to coincide with sl's new weather capabilites or was that just serendipitous?
[12:21] Albert Falck: it's a blog
[12:21] Weather Merlin: I think the timing has been quite good!
[12:21] Weather Merlin: Is that an ok explanation? :)
[12:21] Albert Falck: from hamlet au
[12:21] Heidi Sturm: New World Notes: : http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn
[12:21] Andy Evans: yep
[12:21] Andy Evans: thx
[12:21] Andy Evans: What is New World Notes, where do we see it?
[12:22] Weather Merlin: Should we take a tour or are there more initial questions?
[12:22] You: Ana asks: You "got" SL. How did a corp group manage that?
[12:22] Weather Merlin: Your call Linda
[12:22] Weather Merlin: Sure...
[12:22] You: Let's do a tour and then we can ask more along the way.
[12:23] Weather Merlin: That is a good question. Perhaps a little luck in that we had the right content for SL and hopefully a little bit of just understanding the medium
[12:23] Codeme Sands: very modest
[12:23] Ana Herzog: so many corps that should have gotten it haven't Nike Coke....
[12:23] Weather Merlin: Epic Conditions was the right content for this phase and SL provides an excellent platform with which to bring weather to life, if you will.
[12:24] You: Would you mind sharing how you chose the agency who would do the build?
[12:25] Weather Merlin: By the way, I am happy to accept friendship with anyone on my personal avatar, Larry Abruzzo.
Tour Begins - To the Beach! - And Weather in SL Questions
[12:25] You: Shall we take a tour?
[12:25] Weather Merlin: Sure.
[12:25] You: We'll follow you Weather!
[12:25] You: Where to first?
[12:25] Pagan Bishop: need a tour bus ;P
[12:25] Weather Merlin: How about the beach?
[12:28] Albert Falck: ok here we are
[12:28] You: I just love the surfing here!!
[12:28] Maryrose Mariani: it is fun
[12:28] Weather Merlin: Linda, how should we proceed?
[12:28] You: Tell us what is available here and how someone can surf. please.
[12:28] Weather Merlin: What is great is that you can do that in SL on Weather ISland!
[12:28] Ana Herzog: did i miss the answer to who did the build and how you found them
[12:28] Pagan Bishop: seems like the surfing area gets the majority of the traffic
[12:29] Pebbles Hannya: What bits of the weather here were done for you and what parts are just the basic SL stuff -- for example those little puffy clouds going by...
[12:29] Weather Merlin: ok. There are a few questions...we used IVM and yes the beach gets the majority of traffic on the island
[12:29] Weather Merlin: We build our own dynamic weather systems for rain and snow
[12:30] Weather Merlin: Precip happens randomly over the beach, desert, and mountain
[12:30] Pebbles Hannya: And the wind?
[12:30] Weather Merlin: The beach is all about surfing as you can see
[12:31] Weather Merlin: We waves are supposed the biggest waves in SL and we hope to continue to improve them
[12:31] Weather Merlin: Residents seem to love them and we want to keep those folks coming back
[12:31] Weather Merlin: We also have video behind me and on similar screen throughout
[12:32] You: You've used audio a lot on the island - why did you decide to incorporte that?
[12:32] Weather Merlin: The video consists of clips from Epic Conditions and some other shows in our headquarters building on the pier
[12:32] Weather Merlin: We used audio to incorporate our talent in a somewhat subtle way
[12:32] Weather Merlin: If you know our television network, you may recognize several on air folks in the audio on Weather Island.
[12:33] Weather Merlin: But we did not make a big deal of the fact that they are talent because we know it would only be meaningful to some folks in the US
[12:33] Pebbles Hannya: Do you have any plans to stream you live content here?
[12:33] Pebbles Hannya: *your
[12:33] You: Does anyone want to give a surfing demonstration?
[12:34] Albert Falck: yep znet make as see
[12:34] Weather Merlin: It is a possibility but there are some issues to work out first
[12:34] Weather Merlin: with streaming live that is.
[12:34] Heidi Sturm: I can if you don't mind me surfing in heels
[12:34] Maryrose Mariani: get your boards in the hut
[12:34] You: Go Heidi!
[12:34] Zeb Ewing shouts: Lilla !
[12:34] Heidi Sturm: ok
[12:34] Weather Merlin: There are free boards and wetsuits for everyone
[12:34] Outbreak Fastback: May I ask the reason why you decided to join second life?
[12:35] Maryrose Mariani: tthere goes Heidi
[12:35] Maryrose Mariani: lol
[12:36] Maryrose Mariani: I think we've lost the goup Z
[12:37] Maryrose Mariani: Weather how can I get rain on my island?
[12:37] Pagan Bishop: very nice :)
[12:37] You: Thanks to Heidi!
[12:37] Weather Merlin: We shoudl talk about that.
[12:37] You: Shall we go on to the next area?
[12:38] Weather Merlin: We are thkning about ways to offer other SL land owners and residents weather in various forms so I'd love to speak with anyone who is interested.
[12:38] Heidi Sturm: So there you go, surfing!
[12:38] Maryrose Mariani: I wou ld love to have some rain at the beach
[12:38] Ana Herzog shouts: full sim ---- don't lose us
[12:38] You: Thanks Heidi, well done!
[12:38] Chime Bellman: do you need a towel?
[12:38] Weather Merlin: So then, shall we fly to the mountain?
[12:39] You: lol
[12:39] Pagan Bishop: mountain next, or desert?
[12:39] You: Mountains we'll follow you!
On the Mountain - and Comments on Lessons Learned
[12:40] Weather Merlin: Inside the cabin is more video and the free skiis if anyone wants it.
[12:40] Weather Merlin: Behind the cabin is our ski lift which is very cool.
[12:41] Weather Merlin: What is the group interested in seeing?
[12:41] Weather Merlin: The mountain top, desert, ski lift, etc
[12:41] Pebbles Hannya: Ski lift :)
[12:42] Albert Falck: let's begin with the ski lift
[12:42] Noneget Barnes: :>
[12:42] Weather Merlin: Great ski lift it is
[12:42] Codeme Sands: and maybe throw in an avalanche:)
[12:42] Weather Merlin: One cool thing is...at the top of this tower is a weather vane that actually measures wind speed SL.
[12:43] Albert Falck: cool
[12:44] Weather Merlin: So this is the ski lift...and attraction itself.
[12:44] Codeme Sands: love the sound effects
[12:44] Weather Merlin: if you touch the button behind me and then sit and touch the chair, the ride wil start. Its a bit long so you might want to stand up and fly to the top
[12:45] Pagan Bishop: looks like you can also touch the sign here to get to the top
[12:45] Weather Merlin: That is one of the great details that our developers at IVM provided for us
[12:45] Outbreak Fastback: are you ok sir?
[12:48] Weather Merlin: So we have audio up from one of our talent
[12:48] Weather Merlin: and three trials of varying degrees of difficulty
[12:48] Chime Bellman: this is a huge ski lift
[12:48] Rissa Maidstone: This is really great.
[12:48] Weather Merlin: although all of them are pretty challenging!
[12:49] Rissa Maidstone: I think I'll bring our InfoWeek group here sometime.
[12:49] Codeme Sands: now how to get off elegantly;)
[12:49] Weather Merlin: My apologies if I am not seeing everyone's questions
[12:50] Weather Merlin: I am trying to keep up
[12:50] You: Sorry I got delayed so I couldn't keep up. Please ask again.
[12:50] Ana Herzog: can we get a notecard of question and answers. i've missed the last 5 minutes
[12:50] Weather Merlin: Any questions at this point?
[12:50] You: Yes, ana.
[12:50] Maryrose Mariani: Z will pose the log on the web site
[12:50] Pagan Bishop: now may as good a time as any to ask,
[12:51] Weather Merlin: The noise you hear is supposed to be an avalanche
[12:51] Ana Herzog: which web site?
[12:51] Codeme Sands: 'serious injury' ouch!;)
[12:51] You: I love the sound effects, but I've not quite mastered the skiing.
[12:51] Chime Bellman: let me get my umbrella
[12:51] Maryrose Mariani: lol I've been caughtinone o f those here
[12:51] Weather Merlin: The skiing is pretty difficult
[12:51] Pagan Bishop: I'm curious what some of the lessons learned in coming to SL and doing this project were for TWC
[12:51] Weather Merlin: Lessons learned...
[12:51] Rissa Maidstone: Good question.
[12:52] Weather Merlin: That there is a lot to do in Second Life and not a very effective way to finding all of it
[12:52] Pagan Bishop: and also, what parts were you most happy with in the result?
[12:52] Maryrose Mariani: too true
[12:52] Albert Falck: yes true
[12:53] Weather Merlin: That there are many things that people and companies create in SL but only some truly effectively use the medium for its strengths
[12:53] Joachim Liveoak: So what do you think is most effectve then?
[12:53] You: Hve you gotten any direct feedback from people in SL, those using the island?
[12:53] Ana Herzog: and you are successful, so without any proprietary divulging, what is your secret
[12:53] Rissa Maidstone: Good point, Weather, couldn't agree more.
[12:53] Weather Merlin: And that SL is certainly a peak into what is to come for the internet and interaction with content in general
Comments on Promotion/Community
[12:53] Mikki Writer: How has TWC been promoting this? Only in SL or in RL too?
[12:54] Weather Merlin: I see the last question
[12:54] Joachim Liveoak: Yes. I've already heard it called 'web 3.0'
[12:54] Weather Merlin: We have not been promoting it at all until this point
[12:55] Weather Merlin: We will be launching a custom registration page for Weather Island on epic. weather.com in the very near future and starting to run on-air promos
[12:55] Weather Merlin: What were the two other questions?? sorry!
[12:55] Chime Bellman: oops
[12:55] You: and you are successful, so without any proprietary divulging, what is your secret
[12:55] Chime Bellman: fell off the mountain
[12:55] Chime Bellman: you were not kidding
[12:55] Codeme Sands: How did you search for a technical company?
[12:55] Weather Merlin: Our secret?? Good question
[12:55] Pagan Bishop: another question was, what were you most pleased with in how the project turned out?
[12:56] Weather Merlin: I think, again, that we simply picked an appropriate use for the SL medium and that we are appealing to groups that are already established in SL, like surfers.
[12:56] Weather Merlin: There is actually a large subculture of Sl surfers and we want to give groups like that a great place to be
[12:57] You: Have you gotten any direct feedback from people in SL, those using the island?
[12:57] Pagan Bishop: that explains why the traffic at the beach is so high then I'm guessing
[12:57] Weather Merlin: We have built in a "comment box" feature throughout the space to gather visitors' feedback and it has been largely positive
[12:58] Maryrose Mariani: lol
[12:58] Dragan Milev: think it has been asked before, how did you search for a development company?
[12:58] Weather Merlin: I took a look at about 5 companies and did a simple RFP for the project
[12:58] You: Pagan Bishop: another question was, what were you most pleased with in how the project turned out?
[12:58] Pagan Bishop: Z, I think he already spoke to that one :)
[12:58] Pagan Bishop: thanks
[12:59] You: sorry...
[12:59] Weather Merlin: We went with the group who showed the most passion for our concept and could deliver onbudget and on time of course!
[12:59] Mikki Writer: can you share what the budget was?
[12:59] Weather Merlin: It was a very fast process though...RFP to launch in about 6 weeks.
[12:59] You: whoa - that is fast.
[12:59] Weather Merlin: I would rather not
[12:59] Mikki Writer: k
[12:59] Codeme Sands: 6 weeks!!!
[13:00] Heidi Sturm: Weather, you said a 'custom registration' on epic.weather.com. Are you meaning a custom introduction via TWC into Second Life (similar to Showtime's L Word)?
[13:00] Pebbles Hannya: Is there a plan for how it will evolve over time?
[13:00] Joachim Liveoak: How many developers to do this in 6 weeks?
[13:00] Dragan Milev: just what i wanted to ask, how many developers
[13:00] Weather Merlin: The custom reg wil be like Showtime's, yes.
[13:00] You: You have an orientation island here, yes?
[13:00] Heidi Sturm: great, thanks for the clarification.
[13:00] Weather Merlin: I am not sure how many IVM had working on it, to be honest.
[13:01] Weather Merlin: We have a very small orientation island that we might have to enhance before we launch the registration page
[13:01] Rissa Maidstone: Can you divulge how much you spent for the development and production of the island?
[13:01] Weather Merlin: I would rather not, rissa.
[13:01] Rissa Maidstone: hehe ok
[13:01] Rissa Maidstone: had to ask!
[13:01] Dragan Milev: ballpark?
[13:01] Weather Merlin: Of course!
[13:01] You: Pebbles Hannya: Is there a plan for how it will evolve over time?
[13:01] Rissa Maidstone: yes a ballpark...or range would work
[13:02] Weather Merlin: Less than $1M. :)
[13:02] Pagan Bishop: lol
Goals in Second Life
[13:02] Joachim Liveoak: Is Weather Channel clear on what it hopes to get out of SL? If so what?
[13:02] Codeme Sands: lol
[13:02] Weather Merlin: Perhaps off line?
[13:02] Weather Merlin: Our goals?
[13:02] Joachim Liveoak: yes
[13:03] Weather Merlin: Right now, we are here to understand SL consumers better, virtual worlds and the opportunities they might present TWC, and perhaps offer partners and advertisers a way to try out something new
[13:04] Weather Merlin: We were one of the first on the web with weather.com, in a truly scalable way and we tried to be one of the first in a virtual world like SL
[13:04] You: How do you see advertisers integrating here.
[13:04] Pebbles Hannya: Ads on the lift posts like in RL ;)
[13:04] Weather Merlin: Not sure about that yet but not in traditional ways
[13:05] Weather Merlin: we do not want to put up billboards and the like but could have a virtual sunscreen product for example
[13:05] Maryrose Mariani: ski equipment
[13:05] Majuscule Munro: has there been any consideration for event sponsorship, weather?
[13:05] Albert Falck: LOL
[13:05] Weather Merlin: Or an SUV challenge in teh desert
[13:05] Weather Merlin: An event on our island?
[13:06] Pagan Bishop: wasn't there a surf competition here a while back
[13:06] Joachim Liveoak: Maybe you could sell wether packages for other sims?
[13:06] Majuscule Munro: or a way to liaise with other organizations. sundance channel has a sim that is screening films on global warming, for example
[13:06] Weather Merlin: there was. we sponsored the "prize money" for it
[13:07] Albert Falck: or bringing him other biz interested in selling and creating equipment for ur entertainement
[13:07] Pagan Bishop: how'd that go?
[13:07] Weather Merlin: The surfing contest was great. We had lots of people here...by SL standards
[13:07] Weather Merlin: And the contestants enjoyed the waves
[13:07] Weather Merlin: we hope to do more of these events
Wrap Up and Thanks
[13:07] You: We are past our promnised hour - so before we wrap the "formal" meeting can you share any future plans?
[13:07] Mikki Writer: why did you decide to go after the extreme sports demo as opposed to broader demos? do you feel that better typifies SL users?
[13:09] Weather Merlin: We are past the hour and i have another meeting. I'm sorry. I didn';t realize the time.
[13:09] Weather Merlin: i woudl love to continue the conversation and answer other questions. My email is lpede@weather.com
[13:09] Joachim Liveoak: Thanks for the hour Weather
[13:09] You: Thanks so much!!! This was very interesting, Weather.
[13:09] Maryrose Mariani: Thank you Weather
[13:09] Codeme Sands: Really interesting... :) thanks.. we could do with another hour (or 10!)
[13:09] Heidi Sturm: This has been really enlightening - thanks Weather!
[13:10] Weather Merlin: Sorry that I have to run. And thansk for coming. I would love to know who was here, if that is possible, linda
[13:10] You: Yes, Weather. Will do.
[13:10] Outbreak Fastback: A great tour indeed. Good job sir
[13:10] Maryrose Mariani: if anyone hasn't done the biking, that is also fun.
[13:10] Weather Merlin: Sure. Thanks all! I have to run. My apologies again
[13:10] Dragan Milev: thank you...
[13:10] Ana Herzog: Thank you!
[13:10] Albert Falck: tk u very very much
[13:11] You: Thanks everyone! We didn't make it to the biking area, but stop by there - it is fun too.
[13:11] Albert Falck: lol I will not miss
[13:11] Codeme Sands: Thanks for an excellent event Z
[13:11] You: I think getting everyone up the mountain was quite an ordeal. lol
[13:11] Rissa Maidstone: thank you all, was great
[13:11] Albert Falck: thank to u too znetlady
[13:11] Ana Herzog: wonderful!
[13:11] Heidi Sturm: Z, I'll try to send you what chat I have
[13:11] You: I'll post it - and I think we should have a beach party here. lol
Party planning and extreme sports activities by avatars ensues....
Thanks to Heidi Sturm whose transcript helped fill in what I missed!
June 13, 2007