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Dave Elchoness

Great post and a fascinating concept. Certainly this specific case is new and I imagine will be adopted by other small manufacturers as a means of reducing the need for corporate real estate and other significant real life costs. That said, other companies have "hired" SL avatars to do real work for them and that's something we should be careful about. For example, in the November 2007 issue of HR Magazine, HR concerns arising in the context of avatar employment was discussed. I was quoted at length in that article, as an experienced US employment attorney and HR consultant, but also a RL/SL entrepreneur. There are significant risks undertaken when you have an unknown person, in a unknown RL jurisdiction perform work for you. Although I am a huge proponent of SL as an amazingly powerful communications medium, I think we need to understand that even though the platform is a new place for work, existing work laws will generally apply.

Linda/Znetlady

Hey, Dave! Happy New Year!

Any chance you have a link to the article?

Existing work laws - but another question :-) - whose existing work laws? U.S.? Wherever your SL Grid server is located? Where your corporate org is headquartered? Where the worker is located?

Running into these same issues regarding privacy policies. Generally, it seems it comes down to U.S. because LL is there.

Your insights?

Dave Elchoness

Happy New Year to you too, Linda! A link to the reprint of the article appears at http://tinyurl.com/2sqal6.

As for which laws apply -- without providing legal advice -- it depends. (No legal advice is given here as all advice depends on the particular situation appraised by competent counsel.) The law where the employee physically works will impact heavily. So, if you "employ" an avatar whose real life counterpart sits physically in New York, you could convert yourself into a New York employee perhaps inadvertently. Think about the typical remote working relationship. Your company is in California. Your server is in Nevada. Your employee works physically in Colorado. We all know that the Colorado authorities will expect their overtime laws to apply, right? Same goes for real life employees sitting in foreign countries. All this said, the laws of jurisdictions other than where the employee physically sits could surely impact the employer, employee, and employment relationship in other ways.

One thing's for sure: Real life wage laws, benefits laws, etc. will come into play here and one of these days someone's going to get bit for employing someone without the proper legalities in place. For those companies out there that think free avatar work is a great savings over paying a "real" employee $X USD per hour (minimum wage, anyone?), they should think twice and perhaps consider these issues much more closely.

By the way, I plan on writing on issues such as these, specifically relating to virtual workplace, human resources, and employment issues at my new blog at my new site http://www.VRWorkplace.com.

Linda/Znetlady

Thanks for the link, Dave.

While Double Happiness Jean is paying avatars it doesn't equate to RL minimum wages...hmmmm, interesting issues. We'll be watching your blog for commentary and insights on these virtual workplace issues.

Ron / Hiro

Is that Aimee's and Reuben's avatars I see on the second picture?

Linda Zimmer

Hiro, I'm thinkin' it is so...

Rich Bruchal

I'm a little confused about a couple of things.

1. These are RL jeans being produced? The article says they are "printed' out on Tyvek. Do people really wear Tyvek jeans? I must be getting old :)

2. What exactly do the SL employees do? Are they actually controlling the RL manufacturing process in some way, or is this just for show? If it's just a pattern printed out, what exactly is there for them to do?

Linda Zimmer

Ron, these are RL jeans, yes. They are printed out on the material, you then cut it and assemble the jeans.

As I understand it the SL employees are working at stations and their SL actions are tied to RL processes that produce the jeans.

Wanda

Very interesting post. I had no idea that Second life was that involved.

Sacs Louis Vuitton

Nice blog! I enjoy reading your posts. I enjoy reading the posts from a guy who has the same flair for explaining things.

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